Is the rapture of the church biblical?

I am starting to be more and more convinced that the event of the coming of the Lord, is very much different than what has been taught.

We have been taught that the Lord is coming to take his church out of the world, and then send his wrath on the nations. Either pre, mid, or post, the so called tribulation period, which really isn’t found in the bible.

The bible speaks about a time, which is called great tribulation, but this is not a seven year time frame.

I am beginning to have some questions on this theology, which is taking out the Church and then sending wrath and judgment.

Then he left the crowd and went into the house. His disciples came to him and said, “Explain to us the parable of the weeds in the field.

He answered, “The one who sowed the good seed is the Son of Man.  The field is the world, and the good seed stands for the people of the kingdom. The weeds are the people of the evil one,  and the enemy who sows them is the devil. The harvest is the end of the age, and the harvesters are angels.“As the weeds are pulled up and burned in the fire, so it will be at the end of the age.  The Son of Man will send out his angels, and they will weed out of his kingdom everything that causes sin and all who do evil.  They will throw them into the blazing furnace, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.  Then the righteous will shine like the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Whoever has ears, let them hear. Matthew 13, 36-43

But as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noah entered into the ark,And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left. Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left. Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come. Matthew 24, 37-42

The more I go through the words of the Lord in the gospels, the more it looks and sounds, that its not the believes who are taken out of the world, but its the wicked who are removed? The bible talks about outer darkness, which sounds like a place away from this world of creation?

The story of the flood is very interesting, it says that the flood came and took them all away. After the judgment of the flood, only Noah and his family were the ones who remained in the world.

For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. 1 Thessalonians 4, 16-17

Paul doesn’t say that the Lord takes us out of the world and back to heaven, all he says is that we will meet in the air? This event is the second coming of Christ, he doesn’t leave and go back to heaven again.

Since everything around us is going to be destroyed like this, what holy and godly lives you should live,  looking forward to the day of God and hurrying it along. On that day, he will set the heavens on fire, and the elements will melt away in the flames.  But we are looking forward to the new heavens and new earth he has promised, a world filled with God’s righteousness. 2 Peter 3, 11- 13

When I look at these verses from 2 Peter. Peter says that everything around us is going to be destroyed. It sounds like we will be witnesses to the transformations of the heavens and the earth. One order of heavenly and earthly reality will melt away and be removed, and another reality will be revealed. Peter does not say that we will be gone. All he says is that everything around us will be transformed. A new reality of heaven and earth will be revealed, as the old order and all who belong to it, vanish away in the judgments of God.

What I believe is that when the events of the coming wrath and judgment of God are revealed. This will be the event of the transformation of the creation. From the old of what we see and feel, to the new, which is invisible to us by nature, but very real if one has eyes to see it?

This is the hope of the creation, that the Lord comes and removes all the evil and hostility from his creation, which I believe also involves the present rulers of this age, who are the invisible gods of this world, which are ripe for the coming judgment of God.

Tell Zerubbabel governor of Judah that I am going to shake the heavens and the earth.  I will overturn royal thrones and shatter the power of the foreign kingdoms. Haggai 2, 20-21

See to it that you do not refuse him who speaks. If they did not escape when they refused him who warned them on earth, how much less will we, if we turn away from him who warns us from heaven?  At that time his voice shook the earth, but now he has promised, “Once more I will shake not only the earth but also the heavens.” The words “once more” indicate the removing of what can be shaken—that is, created things—so that what cannot be shaken may remain. Hebrews 12, 25-27

The shaking of the coming Judgment and wrath of God is to remove the things, which can be shaken. The things that will remain are the things that can not be shaken, which is the Kingdom of the new creation, which is in the midst of us?

3 thoughts on “Is the rapture of the church biblical?

  1. “Even as the darnel, then, are being culled and burned up with fire, thus shall it be in the conclusion of the eon. The Son of Man shall be dispatching His messengers, and they shall be culling out of His kingdom all the snares and those doing lawlessness, and they shall be casting them into a furnace of fire. There shall be lamentation and gnashing of teeth.
    (Mat 13:40-42 CLV)

    “and did not know till the deluge came and takes them all away, thus shall be the presence of the Son of Mankind. Then two shall be in the field; one is taken along and one left: two grinding at the millstone; one is taken along and one left” (Mat 24:39-41 Concordant Literal).

    “I am saying to you, in this night there will be two on one couch; the one shall be taken along and the other shall be left. There will be two grinding at the same place; the one shall be taken along, yet the other shall be left.”
    (Luke 17:34-35 CLV)

    The above three passages are not concerned with what is popularly called “the rapture.” Rather, the snaring and lawless ones in Israel are going to be kicked out of Israel. The one who is left at the millstone or in the field or on the couch are the righteous ones who remain in Israel.

    What is the “furnace of fire”? Is it “Hell”? No. It is chastening or what we call “fiery trials.” Such was the case when Israel was held captive in Egypt. They were said to be in an iron furnace. Was Egypt on fire 400 years? No. Was Egypt literally made of iron? no. Was Egypt literally a furnace? No. Once again, the bad Jews who get kicked out of Israel must live within the nations that are called the goat nations per Matthew 25:31-46. Those nations will be in a figurative “furnace of fire.” Within those nations, those Jews will be weeping and gnashing their teeth at being kicked out of such a glorious 1000 year kingdom Christ is going to set up in Israel.

    Israel is not getting raptured or snatched away to meet the Lord in the air. That has only to do with believers of the nations and any Jews who came over to Paul’s evangel and came into the body of Christ.

    Believers of the nations will put on a celestial body. This is to equip them to live among the celestials during the 1000 years and new earth eon. The believing Jews in Israel do not get a celestial body. Why would they need one? They remain terrestrial bound. They will be heading up all on the earth in the Christ. We, of the nations, will be heading up all among the celestials in the Christ. God seats us in Christ among the celestials.

    Christ returns twice. He comes for us of the nations first prior to the indignation since “God has not appointed us to indignation but to the procuring of salvation.” (see 1 Thess.1:10; 5:9). Then, later, Christ returns to earth and sets foot on Mt. Zion and thus, all Israel shall be saved (see Romans 11:26).


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