I have been one who has not believed that the current teaching regarding the rapture was biblicaly based.

But through recent new revelation from the Lord, I am starting to believe that there will be some form of a event, in which the church is taken out from the world before the great day of the Lord.

What I believe I am beginning to see, is that the Church will be taken out of the physical realm and transported into the spiritual.

I don’t see the Church being caught up to meet the Lord, this would mean that the Lord would have to come twice, which the bible does not teach.

What I believe I am seeing is that there is coming a time when the veil between the spirit world, and the natural world will open, and the saints will walk through the door, which divides the two dimensions, and enter the eternal world of the age that has already come.

I see this as a secret coming, only the true Church will have revelation to see and walk through this event, it will be hidden from the world.

This Is a big shift in my understanding of the end time events.

I have always believed that the Church would be on the earth until the Lord descends from the heavens.

4 “Don’t let your hearts be troubled. Trust in God, and trust also in me. ² There is more than enough room in my Father’s home.^[a] If this were not so, would I have told you that I am going to prepare a place for you?^[b]3 When everything is ready, I will come and get you, so that you will always be with me where I am

Then as I looked, I saw a door standing open in heaven, and the same voice I had heard before spoke to me like a trumpet blast. The voice said, “Come up here

I really feel the urgency to speak this word.

We are coming into things in which we have never yet witnessed.

The Lord is asking us to release our categories, which we have held so close.

What we have known as truth will not sustain us for what is about to be revealed.

The things that are coming will stagger our understanding of who he is.

What is coming is so other than what we have been taught and believed.

We are coming into things in which will stagger our sensibilities

God is about to come in ways which will be hard for us to comprehend.

God is coming in ways which will be an offence to the church.

This end time release of apostolic authority will rest on people, which will be hard for the church to receive.

The lord says go to the highways and byways so that my house may be full.

This coming release of authority will rest on people whom this world, and the so called church that is, will find it very hard to accept.

The people of this end time release of apostolic authority, will be the nobody’s of this world, they are the ones whom are in a place of brokenness and nothingness.

They are the rejects, outcasts, they are the ones the self righteous will scorn at.

These end time band of misfits, are the ones who know what and who they truly are.

They are the ones who know the true condition of what is man.

The greater the move of God, the greater is the need for such vessels as this.

This new river which is coming, will find the lowest places in which to flow.

Many will not be able to accept this, it will shake their sense of what they think God truly is.

The cost which will be required in this end time outpouring will be to high for most.

Many will leave the faith, but many will join the faith.

The church is waiting for a conquering king to return, smash all his enemies.

Who is coming is the crucified king, who will heal all his enemies.

What is sin? This question seems to be very alive to me these days. is there an answer to this question.

Is sin something that is in me, or is it a foreign substance that I partake of?

I am finding myself in the midst of a change of view of the reality of sin.

This stuff that dwells in my flesh, what the heck is it, its like some kind of a poison that is released through my being, is it me, or is it not me. Is this stuff which is so alive in us part of our DNA?

I find myself in disbelief at what we are witnessing in this world, but also what I witness coming out of me.

I am starting to say to myself, wait a minute, this can’t be me, this stuff that seems to seek expression through me can’t be me, I really don’t think in this way, were in the world does this stuff come from?

Paul says that we naturally are servants to this force called sin; he doesn’t really say that we are the source of it; he does say that we are the outlets of it.

Am I trying to hide from my responsibility in regards to this substance, which I allow expression through me, not at all; I am trying to understand this deadly substance that is such a source of pain and suffering once released.

Are you ever shocked at what you are capable of? Take away the law from our society what would be the consequences.

We all know what happens when there are no consequences to our actions.

We do know that sin entered the human race through Adams fall, but what does that really mean.

Yes I do understand most of the theological statements, which are made in regards to it, but I still am having issues with what is written on the subject.

So what really did happen when Adam fell? We have to remember that it wasn’t Just Adam and eve in the garden, there was also another participant.

The serpent was there also.

So the issues are not just with Adam and eve, we also have to add the serpent into the mix.

To get to the bottom of this thing called sin, we have to include the serpent also. He seems to have a direct part in the fall of our first parents.

Sin did not originate in the fall of our first parents, it was a present reality before the fall of Adam.

What I believe I’m starting to see in ever greater clarity is that Adam lost the image of God at the fall, but the really bad part is that he inherited the image of the serpent.

The serpent become the image of the Adam race, which we all through Adam have inherited.

So we by nature are the image bearers of the serpent.

He expresses his nature now through the Adam race.

Remember what Jesus said to the Pharisees, you are of your father the Devil, it is his will that you do.

The bible says that the rulers of this age crucified the lord of glory, how? It was through the Adamic race, which was Jews and Romans who partook of this calamity.

But the energy behind this event was the powers of the air.

They used their servants, who were the offspring of Adam, to put to death the prince of peace.

Invisible forces in the heavenlies are the image bearers of this world.

We the human race are their outlets, through whom they display their image.

We cannot see this reality in our natural condition, we are as blind as a bat, when it comes to seeing these things.

They are the powers that are in governmental authority.

Creation is the canvas of this reality; the spiritual is revealed through the visible.

Karl Barth says that creation is the mask of the invisible world.

So really humanity is also a part of this mask.

Humanity is really just an expression of the invisible.

The problem is that man has lost the image of the true God, but now he expresses the image of the God of this age.

Who we all know is the prince of the powers of the air.

This is what we are born into, this is our inheritance through Adam.

I don’t think the Lord gives us to much insight into this reality as young believers, but as we begin to mature in the reality of who the Christ is, then we begin to see this hidden world in the heavenlies, which is I will say is massive to our small perception of things.

We begin to have spiritual insight into the mysteries of this hidden world, which energizes this creation.

This sight that comes through new birth does not really see clearly at first, but as it grows into manhood of the new man who is the Christ,then it begins to see these other worldly mysteries, but also what truth really is.

This new life which is Christ in you, begins to see in ever-greater fullness, the issues attached to this universe.

But the sobering thing is that when you start to see these powers, and hidden rulers, they know that they are seen.

Their hiding place is exposed.

They hate any who are given insight to their hidden arena of operation.

They start to become very hostile toward the ones that know their movements.

They openly and very nakedly begin to assault you, they don’t even try hiding anymore, they almost become a visible reality at times.

This is the realm of the controversy of Zion..

This is the arena that the Lord lived in.

But also it is the arena that is waiting for all, who would come to this place of truly seeing what the condition of Man is.

The church of Christ is the prophetic voice of God to the nations of the world.

The church is the vessel that announces Gods statements to the world.

When the Lord does things in the earth, the church is required to announce the event before it is event.

But also the church is the prophetic presence in the earth that releases the event of the spoken word of God.

When the church speaks the event of the spoken word in the earth, then the event is released into the earth.

The bible says that the lord does nothing unless he first reveals it to his servants the prophets, which now is the body of Christ.

When we come into this body, which is Christ, we come to the living testimony of Jesus, who is the spirit of prophecy.

Karl Bath calls the church militant and triumphant, the triumphant has gone on into glory, and is with Christ now in the heavens, but still continues in the ministry and office of the body, but now in the place of glory.

The militant is still in the earth, in the battle with the rulers of this age.

But both the triumphant church, and the militant church are still joined through the head of this body, which is Christ.

These cloud of witnesses that surround us are one with us, they are not sitting on the clouds of heaven. They continue to be the church. They have just left this natural world.

This church, which is his body, is the temple that is growing.

This temple is the habitation of God, but yet not completed.

The heaven side is complete but this side of glory is still in the process.

The bible says that they that surround us are waiting for us.

This body will not be fully completed until we all meet in the air.

This event is the D-day for the human race.

The greater David returns to rule the nations of this world; the supplanting powers of evil are finally removed from their place of authority.

The Church under the authority of Christ is now in this place of governmental authority.

Sept16/11

What really happened in the garden in the beginning of the creation?

The bible doesn’t give very much information regarding the incident which transpired between Adam, Eve, and the serpent.

We do know from what is written that man lost something that he had, and gained something foreign to his nature.

That’s the great question that many scholars have wrestled with, were did evil come from?

Was evil something that was a reality before man fell?

If man was created upright, how did evil enter the human race?

Some writers believe that evil existed long before man was created.

Some believe that god judged a former creation long before God created man.

We do know from Isaiah and Ezekiel that there was some great rebellion in long ages past,which occurred in the angelic creation.

This seems to say that evil had existed for long ages.

The question is how did this virus impregnate into the human race?

The only account we have is the incident in the garden; somehow sin entered the human race from this one event.

Something so evil happened, it changed the very DNA of the human race.

Some writers say that there was some kind of exchange between the man, the woman, and the serpent.

This one event impregnated the whole human race with evil, which existed long before man was created.

I’m not going to speculate on what happened, but we do know that whatever happened was very offensive to God.

Some writers take great liberty on what transpired, but the bible does not give us much information regarding this incident.

We do know that now we have this great cancer in us now, which is called sin.

It is the cause of all the evil in this world. It seems to be attached to the very depth of our being.

It’s like a never ending well of poison water that pollutes everything it touches.

This sin virus seems to be attached to the spirit world, which surrounds us.

It seems to get its energy from it, the two seem to be joined together in this great deluge of poison water, spewing out of the fallen race of mankind.

The bible calls the father of this evil, the prince of this present age.

He is called a murderer from the beginning.

And now through the event of the fall, we have become partakers in this great rebellion of evil with him.

We find that his very nature of evil is implanted right in the heart of the human race.

Jesus told the Pharisees that he was their father.

This sin issue was so great that God himself had to come into this evil world, and pay the penalty for it.

I don’t think we are able to understand the magnitude of what transpired at the cross.

God dealt with ageless universal evil in his own Godhead once and for all time.

This penalty for sin was so great that only god himself could deal with it, through his own Godhead.

T Austin Sparks calls the cross D-day for the human race.

That’s why the cross is central of the Christian life.

It is our release from the power of this poison called sin.

There is this strange hostile relationship between the church and the powers.

The event of Pentecost was the beginning of this hostile relationship between these two entities.

The prophetic fulfillment of Pentecost was the opening of the door for the church into this arena, which prier to it was only understood by the Lord.

This event was the direct result of the ascension of the Lord to the right hand of power, which resulted in the release of the spirit into the body of Christ, which is the church.

This event was the open door to the church into this arena, which is the cosmic conflict of the ages between the Gods of this age and God of heaven.

The event of the Holy Spirit was the event of power, but also warfare.

Now these powers had another reality in their sphere of operation, which is the church.

These powers have been in direct conflict with the church since the Lord ascended the throne.

This is the world that we enter through new birth; yes it is a very wonderful reality, but it is also a very hostile environment.

This is the sphere that the book of Joshua represents.

When we come to our Jordan experience, it takes us to the book of Joshua.

We are now on resurrection ground under the government of the Holy Spirit.

The Land of promise is before us, it is given to us through Christ, but the only problem is that the powers that hold this land are still in possession of it,

We begin our phase of spiritual conflict with the rulers that hold this heavenly country.

Though these powers were defeated at the cross they still remain in the positions of government authority.

By the churches presence in this present world, the statement is made to the powers that they are not the true Gods of this age; there is another reality in their sphere that is in direct opposition to their world governmental dominance over the nations.

These powers full well know that this country has been given to the church.

They understand that one day they will be cast out, and the church will be left to attain their vacant thrones of power.

This is the destiny of the church; this is an eternal destiny for all the ages upon ages that are ahead of us.

We the church are now living in the same reality of David and Saul, even though Saul knew that one day David would inherit the throne, he could not stop persecuting David.

Saul was in constant aggression against David.

Little did Saul know that this persecution was to prepare David for ruler ship?

In Gods hidden mystery, which these rulers cannot understand, is that their evil against David was really their undoing?

This is the mystery of the cross; the powers have no knowledge of it. It is a strange unknown language to them.

They are blind to this reality that was demonstrated at the cross by the greater David.

Remember that the Lord himself talked about giving authority to his church, some over 10 cities, some 5 and so on.

This should not be strange language to us it is very scriptural.

This age is very important; it is the age of training, preparation for rulership with Christ.

When his eternal kingdom is revealed in power and great glory, then the church will be revealed with him.

This is the time of the great inheritance, the word say it is a event that all, who are the church, past, present, and future attain together.

Now the King and his men went to Jerusalem against the jebusites, the inhabitants of the land, and they said to David, you shall not come in here, but the bind and the lame shall turn you away: thinking David cannot enter here.

Nevertheless, David captured the stronghold of Zion that is the city of David. Samuel 5-6,7

When he had disarmed the rulers and authorities, he made a public display of them, having triumphed over them through him. Colossians 2-15

Man lost something through the fall of Adam; the bible isn’t clear on exactly what we lost, some writers speak of some kind of spiritual state that once was common before the transgression of Adam.

Somehow through the fall, man came under the dominion of the principalities and powers of this present darkness.

This realm was taken over by the fallen evil forces of this dark world, it became known as mystery Babylon, this mystical city is still a present reality now, and has much influence in this fallen dark world, many write on these things, but I haven’t found much that I felt was very sound, the only person that I feel had any real insight into this mystery was the late Jessie-Penn-Lewis, the book war on the saints is considered a classic.

I don’t believe that the Lord has given that much insight to the church regarding this reality yet, but I do believe as we approach the close of this present evil age, God will give more light as the church needs it.

What the Lord did at the cross is he captured the spiritual city of Babylon, and laid the foundation of his heavenly city the new Jerusalem, right in the midst of his great eternal enemies.

The bible says that he’s ruling and reining now in the midst of his enemies, its like a stronger force overtaking a weaker one, they are still here, but they are under his great sovereign rule.

One of the reasons that the Lord left them here is that now he uses their evil to mature his saints.

Yes these forces are evil, vicious, wicked, full of hate, but they are under his heavenly leash, they are given much liberty with the wicked, and they do tempt his saints greatly, but we must know that he is absolute Lord of all.

Sometimes it seems that the Lord gives them way to much liberty toward us, but God knows how much we are able to endure.

The Lord will leave these forces here until the church; the eternal city, comes to maturity.

When the church is complete, then the Lord will remove their place from the heavenly realms of authority, and the church will be ready to govern throughout the ages to come.

But now we as the people of the Lord are in this great ageless battle of evil and good, light and darkness.

Don’t mistake this fact, they are under his great sovereignty, but they are still full of hatred toward Gods chosen ones.

These evil fallen beings are very intelligent; they could destroy us with evil very quickly, if the Lord was not our defender.

The Lord allows these beings to attack us often, many times working through the wicked of this world, and sometimes ones who are very close to us.

Know this, they can not destroy us, we must endure their assaults for the season given them, but if we hang on and not react to the events around us, we always come through into newness of victory.

This will continue to be the churches lot in this present age.

I have read of many mature saints as they near the end of their earthly life, they come under the most severe assaults.

The assault on A B Simpson was so severe that he thought that he was lost, many of his brethren had to pray him through to the other side.

The prophetic kingdom of heaven is a reality now; much of the present Christian church is waiting for the coming of this kingdom, but the truth is it has already arrived. The event of the cross of Christ was the event, which revealed this kingdom. Remember when the lord said, there will some standing here that will witness the birth of this kingdom.

This statement was made to his disciples.

This is were much of the present Christian faith is in confusion, large segments of the church are waiting for the rebirth of the Roman Empire, believing this has to take place before the kingdom arrives. I really don’t see any scriptural support for this conclusion.

The book of Daniel is very clear.

Then there will be a fourth kingdom as strong as iron; inasmuch as iron crushes and shatters all things, so, like iron that breaks in pieces, it will crush and break al these in pieces. And in that you saw the feet and toes, partly of potters clay and partly of iron, it will be a divided kingdom; bur it will have in it the toughness of iron mixed with common clay. Daniel 2- 40,21

And in the days of those kings the god of heaven will set up a kingdom which will never be destroyed, and that kingdom will not be left for another people; it will crush and put an end to all these kingdoms, but it will itself endure forever.

This is as clear of a statement regarding the coming kingdom as can be found in the scripture.

History will not repeat itself; the Roman Empire came and went, it was the world power at the time of Christ. It is very clear the kingdom came at this time.

The problem is that this kingdom is not of this present earthly realm, it is a prophetic reality hidden in the realm of this natural world.

I know that some day this invisible reality called the kingdom of heaven will become a visible manifestation in this natural realm in which we presently dwell.

But now it is a hidden reality to all humans, unless we truly are born into this reality.

The kingdom has come if god gives us revelation to see it, but if one does not see the prophetic reality of it, then you have to say that is has not come.

Remember that the lord is ruling and reining now, not at the second coming but right now. At the cross the Lord ascended the throne of power, he said all authority in heaven and earth has been given over to him.

The second coming, which is the visible display of this kingdom, comes when he has put all power and authority under his feet.

At this point of history this kingdom is at war with the rulers of this age, of which Paul says are coming to nothing.

Once we truly enter into this arena called the kingdom of heaven, then we come into realms of intense conflict with the powers of this present age.

I hear a lot of people craving the power which is revealed through this kingdom, but little do we know that to truly come to this place is to truly come into horrific assaults on ones position taken.

This kingdom is in a death grip with the rulers of this present age, this battleground that we enter through a true new birth opens us up to the battlefield.

This world is not for the faint of heart, the assaults, which are released at us, are at times staggering.

Every inch of ground is contested; the enemy of this eternal kingdom does not give up an inch of ground without a tremendous battle.

We are living in the days of Joshua, the battle is escalating, and the intensity of this warfare is going to be the greatest right before the visible display of this kingdom.

I believe many do come to this kingdom but they are not prepared for the extreme conditions.

Yes it is a place of great power, but it is measured by great conflict.

Many are not willing to go on once they see the cost that is required. And many are overtaken by their personnel sins, which are an area of target for the enemy.

The powers of the air know us all very well; they know the places of our weakness and hidden sins.

I remember what Pastor Robert Thompson said.

Everybody wants to go to heaven, but don’t you know! There is war in heaven.

And there will be signs in the sun and moon and stars, and upon the earth dismay among the nations, in perplexity at the roaring of the sea and the wave, men fainting from fear and the expectation of the things which are coming upon the world; for the powers of the heavens will be shaken.

And then they will see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory. Luke 21-25,26,27

Speak to Zerubbabel governor of Judah saying, I am going to shake the heavens and the earth. And I will overthrow the thrones of kingdoms and destroy the power of the kingdoms of the nations. Haggai 2- 21,22

The coming of the Lord is the event, which triggers the shaking of the powers from their places authority.

This event triggers great convulsions in the natural world; it looks like the whole order of creation is rocked by this apostolic release of power.

Everything that we presently know as reality will be turned upside down.

The natural expression, which will be convulsive, is the invisible reality of war in heaven.

And there were flashes of lightning and sounds and peals of thunder; and there was a great earthquake, such as there has not been since man came to be upon the earth, so great a earthquake was it, and so mighty.

And the great city was split into three parts, and the cities of the nations fell. And Babylon the great was remembered before God, to give her the cup of the wine of his fierce wrath. Revelation 16-18,19

And the woman whom you saw is the great city, which reigns over the kings of the earth. Revelation 17-18

This harlot of revelation is first the powers that rule this world; secondly it is the earthly expressions of this power. It’s not some institution it’s everything that expresses this heavenly reality.

Many biblical expositors try to make this harlot of revelation something that has a fixed point in this world.

There are many fixed points that express this reality, but the force of propulsion lies with the heavenly powers that rule this cosmos.

This is where we have to start.

If we try to point to something in the world and say this is Babylon, it becomes a headless body.

Babylon is very much alive in this world, but we have to realize that it is only an expression of the reality of the heavenly.

Babylon is first the world spirit. Behind this spirit is the prince of the powers of the air; he is the energizing force that is released into the nations.

We hate to believe this but we live in a world that is dominated by his image.

The human race is only just racing into the full development of antichrist.

Antichrist is not something that is coming he has been here since the beginning, what we are witnessing today is the full development of this figure, we already worship his image.

The number 666 is just really only the full development of this man of sin.

He dwells in Adam; this is his arena of operation. If you live in Adam you are under his jurisdiction.

Adam is a slave to this spirit, it’s like Adam is one with this reality.

This world outside of Christ is chained to this man of sin, they are forced into doing his will, and they can’t break free from the chains that hold them.

The only escape is through the cross, which is regeneration into the new humanity, which is Christ.

Mankind has now become a beast; he is something totality other than what God created.

We are living in a time when we are calling evil good and good evil.

This world spirit is growing in leaps and bounds. Who knows what the full expression will really look like when fully developed.

I remember a dear old brother speaking to me one day, he said the world is looking and waiting for the man of sin to arrive on the scene, he said don’t you know that he lives in us?

After these things I saw another angel coming down from heaven, having great authority. And the earth was illuminated with his glory. And he cried with a mighty voice, saying fallen, fallen is Babylon the great! And she has become a dwelling place of demons and a prison of every unclean and hateful bird. For all the nations have drunk the wine of her passion of her immorality, and the kings of the earth have committed acts of immorality with her, and the merchants of the earth have become rich by the wealth of her sensuality.

And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, come out of her my people, that you may not participate in her sins and that you may not receive of her plagues. Revelation 18-1,2,3,4